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Someone reported an online business being a scam, it actually pays its members, so how is this a scam? 
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curious2know
Level 1
10/10/11
I recently learned this evening that the youtube videos for the JSS Tripler and JBP program have been getting taken down due to someone reporting this as a scam.. It is not a scam. A scam is when someone takes a victim's money and runs.. This actually pays people And pays them well. There is no scam. I have been referring people to watch the
instructions on youtube after they signup to know how to proceed. I am upset that' people will lie just to stop a worth while program and wanted you to know that this is not a scam program.. I have been in so many that were.. this is not! please do not remove The JSS Tripler programs.. I know at least 15 people personally making money and
it actually reaching their banks.
Update:the other main issue is the instructional video was not something that was promoting an affiliate's link.. it was simply instructions step-by-step on how to get started with funding. This is not a get rich quick scam. Do your homework.. do some searching and due diligence before making that type of statement.
10/10/11
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rewboss
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10/11/11
Best answer - gbcali (Top Contributor) Go to this answer
No, what's blatantly obvious is that this is another pyramid scheme. Anything that relies on members recruiting new members in order to make money can never work in the long term, is very often actually illegal, and is never tolerated on YouTube, period. If you don't like the fact that such schemes are not tolerated on YouTube, feel free to find an alternative video hosting platform where they are tolerated.
Beyond that, this is a technical help forum. YouTube's policies are not up for discussion here or anywhere else.
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AverageJoe1
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10/11/11
Best answer - curious2know (Asker) Go to this answer
Hey,
I make videos slamming MLM companies and their products. So I decided to try this one for a review to see what the hype is about. This is what I found out.
1. I started to make money without recruiting anyone. No need to bother your family or friends.
-rewboss, you can buy $10 positions and earn back 2% from traffic exchange.
Referral Bonuses is just a "Bonus" "Extra Incentive" meaning not required to recruit.
So basically what I am saying is, I am making money without having anyone in my "downline"
So with 0 members, I still make money. Its pretty bad how all this youtube stuff turned out, I mean there is a true way to make money online with JSS. I see more corrupt programs on youtube right now that recruiting is required and the only product they have is just a digital ebook that cost $50 which is bull. That is a scam.
Why are those videos still up?
So, there is no people at the top making all the money type of thing with JSS. Please read the fine print more carefully.
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PeggyK
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10/10/11
YouTube usually doesn't allow videos promoting to "get rich quick" programs or that have affiliate links. It doesn't matter if it's a "scam" or not.
And looking at the official website, it would be hard to distinguish the program from a gussied up pyramid scheme. (http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.shtm If you are earning money, you may want to cash out now before the inevitable implosion.
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curious2know
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10/10/11
well I can understand that.. this isnt a get rich quick.. It takes time to earn.. just like any
reputable company online business. The parent company by the way has been in operation
since 2008 .. that SHOULD imply something decent, right? Either way, the person who
put in a complaint is someone who has an ax to grind and doesnt want people to do well.. it's blatantly
obvious.
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rewboss
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10/11/11
Best answer - gbcali (Top Contributor)
No, what's blatantly obvious is that this is another pyramid scheme. Anything that relies on members recruiting new members in order to make money can never work in the long term, is very often actually illegal, and is never tolerated on YouTube, period. If you don't like the fact that such schemes are not tolerated on YouTube, feel free to find an alternative video hosting platform where they are tolerated.
Beyond that, this is a technical help forum. YouTube's policies are not up for discussion here or anywhere else.
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curious2know
Level 1
10/11/11
ONCE AGAIN.. YOU did not do your homework on this program that you continue to slam.. The only real reason people I know, as well as myself, got into this program, is because you don't need to recruit!!! you earn without doing so. so, once again, you are incorrect, and talking out your...um... There are so many people who now a days say they are terrible at sponsoring and recruiting. They join this because it is not a requirement.. So since you have spouted off without having a clue into this program, the only thing I CAN agree with you on is that this conversation is not up for debate. The Mind will always reject WHAT IT CANNOT COMPREHEND.
So, do us all a favor, the next time you go off on your tangents and explanations about things you THINK you know, try doing your homework and research so you can get your facts straight. The JSS program is not a pyramid scheme...you are clueless about this program, that's obvious, and your assumptions.. well don't assume because everyone already knows what makes you. END OF DISCUSSION..
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rewboss
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10/11/11
From: http://www.justbeenpaid.com/faqs/tripler.php
You buy $10 positions [...] You earn referral bonuses
We weren't born yesterday and we are not stupid. We see schemes like this all the time. They all claim to have some "secret" that makes then "indefinitely sustainable", they all claim not to be pyramid schemes, and they all claim you don't actually need to recruit people. All those claims are always bogus, and all these schemes, including the one JSS Tripler claims to be based on, eventually collapse with more than half of the participants losing money.
They are all doomed to collapse, because they all work on the same principle: the only money in the system is the money paid in by new members, which just circulates and gets creamed off by the people at the top. No money is generated, and there is never enough money in the system to pay existing members.
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AverageJoe1
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10/11/11
Best answer - curious2know (Asker)
Hey,
I make videos slamming MLM companies and their products. So I decided to try this one for a review to see what the hype is about. This is what I found out.
1. I started to make money without recruiting anyone. No need to bother your family or friends.
-rewboss, you can buy $10 positions and earn back 2% from traffic exchange.
Referral Bonuses is just a "Bonus" "Extra Incentive" meaning not required to recruit.
So basically what I am saying is, I am making money without having anyone in my "downline"
So with 0 members, I still make money. Its pretty bad how all this youtube stuff turned out, I mean there is a true way to make money online with JSS. I see more corrupt programs on youtube right now that recruiting is required and the only product they have is just a digital ebook that cost $50 which is bull. That is a scam.
Why are those videos still up?
So, there is no people at the top making all the money type of thing with JSS. Please read the fine print more carefully.
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rewboss
Top Contributor
10/11/11
Oh, use your brain cells, they're not there for decoration. The only money available in the scheme is what's being paid in by members, so how can it possibly pay everyone who joins?
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ikillscams
Level 1
10/13/11
Hey, curious2know!
I was the one in charge of shutting down all your videos (with a group of people).
The same will happen to all of them in the future. I'll keep an eye on the new ones coming out.
Oh, and all of you reading this can join in reporting them ;)
You know what? You remind me of another guy from your scam/ponzi scheme who responds just like you.
You all were brainwashed like crazy.
My advice to your whole scam - never again use YouTube to promote it. Never!
You can tell that to your Frederick Mann guy and tell him to send mass e-mail about that too (I'm reading updates about you - that's why I'm here, btw). We will ban and terminate all significant videos about your scam.
Google and YouTube is on our side.
Peace!
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rewboss
Top Contributor
10/13/11
This isn't something to gloat about, ikillscams. You're not "in charge" of shutting down any videos. Just continue to flag videos you think violate the guidelines and leave it at that. Thanks.
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ikillscams
Level 1
10/13/11
Yep. I understand that.
Just let some emotions come out.
Thanks!
And thanks to Google for being so awesome!
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curious2know
Level 1
10/13/11
AGAIN, people are making money with this program, even people who were paid forward into the program are making money. It's a real shame you don't comprehend how this is possible. I paid a total of $30 to get started, some paid only $10.. it's up to the individual person what they want to put in to earn the 2% per day. $10 being the minimum. Year to date, I've made $97... so I'm not complaining & neither are all the people I know in this program who are getting paid.
It's a real shame that you have the nerve to spout off as though you know the program when you know nothing about it.. so, when you put it down, it shows a jealous streak that lies within you. Shame on you! Anyway, the fantastic news is that YOUTUBE isn't the only video service on the net! Thank goodness.. our marketing is alive and well due in part to video links promoting this program and I'm very pleased that those wanting to make great money have those avenues without the likes of negative naysyers.. ha ha ha back at ya!!! So bash and kick and scream and yell all you want, flag and be flagged because you are a true blue idiot. You cannot comprehend this working because you refuse to believe it is.. I feel sorry for you! I personally know people making hundreds per week and taking it to the bank... not just virtual earnings. So THERE na nany poo poo! Have a wonderful day you ugly person.
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rewboss
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10/13/11
Of the $30 you paid, $5 is an "administration charge", and the remaining $15 is shared out among the people one level above you. That's why it's a pyramid, and why it will eventually collapse like all the rest. Yes, I have done my research.
2% a day on $30, incidentally, adds up to $2.19 a year. If you wanted to make a profit on your investment without recruiting anyone into the pyramid, it would take you fourteen years, and even then your net profit would be a magnificent 66 cents. By that time, inflation would have taken its toll and you'd still be out of pocket by a wide margin. You'd do far, far better putting your $30 in a normal savings account.
You can, of course, continue to argue by throwing childish insults around instead of actually proving me wrong by explaining exactly how the scheme generates money. That will just make people think you have no idea what you're talking about. You've been suckered into an illegal scam and you're trying to sucker other people into it.
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rewboss
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10/13/11
Aha... I was actually off by a factor of 100 -- 2% of $30 isn't 0.6 cents, it's $0.60. My bad.
So... after just 50 days you get your money back. After one year, you've made a profit of $189.
Which raises the question: How come you've only made half that this year?
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curious2know
Level 1
10/14/11
Okay well if you think you know best then that's fine.. I'm doing this because it is paying.. and the people I know in it are getting paid.. it's working.. and has been working for quite some time now.. I know and understand what you're saying because so many times programs that are 'described' such as this have been scams as you say. So It's understandable that this can very well be misconstrued and lumped into that sector of online problematic programs. This is the ONE program that is not like those other programs out there. They pulled off line for a bit to change servers and what they called a 'restart' and if they WERE like those other programs they would have stayed off line.. They came back and people are making money.. they did not go away and up and run or disappear. So that is definitely a positive sign. I know how you feel and have been there with other programs such as you describe so, it's not your fault for 'feeling' this way. I will keep you posted how I'm doing with the program. So far it's working and, today I earned $40.. so I'm thrilled.
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rewboss
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10/14/11
So, where is all this money coming from?
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